Tami Lemberger: About the Purpose of Ethics

Amazing Interview and Data.
There is an amazing lecture from LRH called “Havingness-Quality of reach”.I think its CleanHands congress(not sure).This lecture really get you the understaning of this Tech as a PC and How it helps you to Cause so you litteraly ask for more by yourself. Just like you said Tami.I can attest persoannly of amazing wins from Conffesionals done with you and it always boosted my life and increased case gains and Cause level in life.KRC comes from the Thetan himself.
Love,
Nir

I was a Sea Org member for a short while at the Flag Land Base back in about 1979. Even while being fairly new to Scientology I had this tremendous gut feeling tech was being mis applied. Especially ethics. It was more for punishment against LRH and the Church. Plus the ways in which conditions were expected to be applied didn’t seem workable. Not to mention the out- exchange and out-ethics on the part of the church as a whole- that I could see. I left after a year.
40 years since then, about the year 2017, I gave it another chance. I answered the phone one evening and it was a staff member calling. I had been getting phone calls for years. They find you. So I was told how Miscavige had gone through and re edited all the books, etc.. I explained it sounded interesting. I was in a lot of debt at the time taking care of 7 people on my one salary. I explained this. They said well buy the Dianetics book, you will like it. I bought it and I did enjoy reading it. They called back. I got tag-teamed. Which I think is out ethics. Knowing I was in debt they still managed to talk me into giving them $8,000 left on my credit card to buy all the books and lectures. It is about 35 boxes. This was crazy when I realized what I and they had done. Then I got talked into having to purchase the extension courses for each book and each lecture series. This cost another small fortune.
Personally, I saw how each book was literally introduced as the new cutting edge tech. I figured out for myself something was terribly wrong.
A staff member from Saint Hill calls me right up and wants me to come there for services instead of Flag. She flies over to Washington DC and I drive to the Org/Church there on a wonderfully Sunday holiday to meet her. I noticed something very odd and I didn’t like it afterward. This Ideal Org was like a palace or something. I was given a tour. Other than a skeleton crew staffing it, there were very, very few public. No activity. This wasn’t congruent with how I was told how the Church as expanded so much over the years. She wasn’t happy because I refused to write her a $1600 check for services over there.
I do not like how the church is mis advertising itself. Plus, since 1976 when I first got introduced, I have yet to meet a Scientologist out in public anywhere. I don’t like or believe the intent of opening these mega Ideal Orgs, when I know damn well they will only succeed if enough staff members are there working slave hours and slave pay.
Plus, in these early lectures and books, LRH gives methods to self audit. And the processes to do so. I actually felt I got good results. But when I spoke these things to my supervisor there she said you can’t self audit. I didn’t argue. But I quit.
I concluded through my own application of ethics and conditions that now, the church is my enemy. I cleaned up and took responsibility for my actions regarding giving them money when I was in debt. I confronted my supervisor, the chaplain and the lady staff member who initially tag-teamed me to pay so much out. She tried to turn it around by demanding I give her names of anyone who had spoken to me to change my mind. I confronted her again. I stated that I expected her to do the conditions and get her own ethics in.
I still haven’t met any clears and OT’s out in general public and in jobs out there. The staff member from Saint Hill was OT5 and I could blow the socks right off her. I saw right through her.
Thanks for listening. I was actually agreeing with what you just presented. Thank you for sharing. I don’t expect a reply. It would be nice. But not expected. Thanks for your time and at doing what you are doing.